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Magbanua Retrial transcript transcript Michael Dillmore — Direct/Cross - Day 7 - Magbanua Retrial Defense forensics witness Michael Dillmore identified the same phone number in both Sigfredo Garcia's extracted phone data and Charlie Adelson's iCloud contacts, stored under different names in each; prosecution waived cross-examination and Dillmore was excused. Sarah Kathryn DuganChristopher DeCosteRobert R. WheelerMichael DillmoreMr. DeCosteJudge WheelerMichael DillmoreCourt ClerkMs. Dugandirectcross
Magbanua Retrial / Day 7 / May 26, 2022
10 pages · 6 witnesses · 4,726 lines
Defense forensics witness Michael Dillmore identified the same phone number in both Sigfredo Garcia's extracted phone data and Charlie Adelson's iCloud contacts, stored under different names in each; prosecution waived cross-examination and Dillmore was excused.
Proceedings
Direct Michael Dillmore - Direct Line 1
Cross Michael Dillmore - Cross (Waived) Line 109
1 50:36

MR. DECOSTE: Defense calls Investigator Michael Dillmore.

2 50:39

JUDGE WHEELER: All right. Michael Dillmore, please.

3 51:00

JUDGE WHEELER: Good morning.

4 51:01

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Good morning.

5 51:07

JUDGE WHEELER: Before you have a seat, we're going to swear you in. Please raise your right hand and respond to the clerk.

6 51:11

COURT CLERK: Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

7 51:16
8 51:17

JUDGE WHEELER: Thank you. Please have a seat.

9 51:18

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Thank you, sir.

10 52:04

MR. DECOSTE: How are you?

11 52:04

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Good. How are you?

12 52:05

MR. DECOSTE: Doing well.

13 52:06

MR. DECOSTE: If you could please introduce yourself to the jury.

14 52:09

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Certainly. My name is Mike Dillmore. I'm an investigator with the Tallahassee Police Department.

15 52:13

MICHAEL DILLMORE: That's D-I-L-M-O-R-E.

16 52:15

MR. DECOSTE: And what do you currently do in the Tallahassee Police Department?

17 52:18

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I'm an investigator with the Technical Operations Unit, and I do digital forensics.

18 52:22

MR. DECOSTE: Do you work with Sergeant Corbitt?

19 52:23

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I do. He's my supervisor.

20 52:25

MR. DECOSTE: All right. So you did some work in this case, correct?

21 52:29

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

22 52:29

MR. DECOSTE: If you could explain to the jury the different tasks you did on this case.

23 52:32

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Certainly. My job in digital forensics is to go through computers and cell phones to find evidence.

24 52:39

MICHAEL DILLMORE: So when an investigator comes across an electronic storage device in their case that they believe evidence is on, they'll either get consent or a search warrant, bring it to me or my partner, and we'll go through it and try to find that evidence. Yes. So in this case, I did some cell phones, I think a computer, and some, uh, cloud terms, things like that.

25 52:59

MR. DECOSTE: Did you happen to do any work on a phone that belonged to Sigfredo Garcia?

26 53:04

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

27 53:05

MR. DECOSTE: Was it your understanding that that phone was received after he was arrested?

28 53:08

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I believe so, yes.

29 53:10

MR. DECOSTE: And what kind of work did you do on that phone?

30 53:13

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Um, my documents up—

31 53:16

MR. DECOSTE: Yeah. If you need to refresh your recollection, just let us know what you're taking a look at so it goes on the record here.

32 53:21

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Certainly.

33 53:22

MR. DECOSTE: And you'll take a look at it and let us know.

34 53:33

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Just opening up my activity log to see what I did on this particular phone.

35 53:51

MICHAEL DILLMORE: So I believe I did Cellebrite extractions on this particular phone.

36 53:57

MR. DECOSTE: Is that related to something called a ZRT report?

37 54:01

MICHAEL DILLMORE: The ZRT is different.

38 54:04

MICHAEL DILLMORE: The ZRT is where a camera is used to take pictures of the device if we can't extract the data itself out of it.

39 54:12

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I believe another investigator actually did a ZRT on a different phone.

40 54:17

MR. DECOSTE: Did you do a download and a corresponding ZRT report for Sigfredo Garcia's phone?

41 54:23

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I did the Cellebrite report.

42 54:25

MR. DECOSTE: All right. Now, there is a long report that has your name on it, correct?

43 54:30
44 54:30

MR. DECOSTE: What is that called, if I'm calling that by the wrong term?

45 54:32

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Right. Yeah, it was listed in the email as a ZRT, but it's actually a Cellebrite report.

46 54:37

MR. DECOSTE: This is why there's a technical unit, right — to explain to all of us what this stuff is.

47 54:41

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Just let me get that one open.

48 54:53

MICHAEL DILLMORE: In that particular report that you're talking about, it was done with a Cellebrite UFED device.

49 54:58

MICHAEL DILLMORE: It's a universal forensic extraction device.

50 55:01

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Basically, I connect the phone to it and then extract the data to my computer.

51 55:06

MR. DECOSTE: And you did that for Sigfredo Garcia's phone?

52 55:09

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

53 55:10

MR. DECOSTE: Did you review the information that was downloaded?

54 55:14

MICHAEL DILLMORE: No, sir, not at the time.

55 55:15

MR. DECOSTE: Have you since reviewed it?

56 55:17

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Some of it, yes, sir.

57 55:18

MR. DECOSTE: And in your review of that, did you find that — let me back up here. With that download — are you getting — you're getting data off of the phone — does it include things like text messages?

58 55:28

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir, it does.

59 55:29

MR. DECOSTE: Since the time that you did this work, leading up to today, have you reviewed those messages?

60 55:36

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Some of them, yes, sir, I have.

61 55:37

MR. DECOSTE: And in your review of some of those messages, did you find that Sigfredo Garcia was in communication with Luis Rivera during May of 2016?

62 55:47

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I cannot say that's for certain. I do not know.

63 55:50

MR. DECOSTE: Did you find in there that there was communications that — within the communication — reference to Luis Rivera?

64 55:59

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

65 55:59

MR. DECOSTE: And if you don't remember, we can take a look at the document, but do you remember the time frame of those communications — when they began and when they went until?

66 56:08

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I believe it was in May of 2016.

67 56:10

MR. DECOSTE: If I were to ask you the specific day, would you know, or is it something you need to take a look at?

68 56:15

MICHAEL DILLMORE: The items — I'll need to take a look.

69 56:15

MR. DECOSTE: You're not going to approach me, right?

70 56:25

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I have it open right here as well.

71 56:27

MR. DECOSTE: So, Investigator Dillmore, when did the — the communications between — and again, this is Sigfredo Garcia's phone, correct, and your understanding from the content of the messages that it's Luis Rivera — or do you know if it's Luis Rivera, or somebody that goes by the name of Tata?

72 56:45

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I can say that, in the stored — in the device — on the contacts, it was listed, I believe, as T, just the letter T. But in one of the messages, it said, "This is Tata, T-A-T-O."

73 57:01

MR. DECOSTE: Now, this is coming from another cell phone, or another — another phone number?

74 57:06

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Another phone number, yes, sir.

75 57:12

MR. DECOSTE: If you could tell the jury when those communications begin.

76 57:12

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Sure. It's — the first one that looks like — May 11th of 2016.

77 57:12

MR. DECOSTE: Would you agree with me that it continues for the next week or so?

78 57:36

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Last one I have here is on May 16th of 2016.

79 57:40

MR. DECOSTE: All right. You would agree with me that this is not coming from an email account?

80 57:40

MICHAEL DILLMORE: It does not appear to be. It says that it's from a phone number.

81 57:47

MR. DECOSTE: Do you know if the Technical Operations Unit ever did any work to find out if the phone number that these messages — that Mr. Garcia's handset — was communicating with — was there any work done on that to find out whose cell phone it is?

82 58:01

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I don't know.

83 58:01

MR. DECOSTE: But you yourself didn't do any work?

84 58:05
85 58:11

MR. DECOSTE: You also did, and I think it was a Cellebrite, but you're gonna let the jury know if I'm wrong in that — with respect to Charlie Adelson's iCloud, correct?

86 58:19

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

87 58:19

MR. DECOSTE: Now, just — just for education purposes — my understanding is that a — a warrant or subpoena is sent to Apple, Apple gives you data, and you need to put it into a system to then interpret that data, correct?

88 58:33

MICHAEL DILLMORE: That's correct.

89 58:33

MR. DECOSTE: And the Cellebrite program interprets that data, so it will organize it as contacts, calendar events, recordings, messages, stuff like that?

90 58:41

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

91 58:41

MR. DECOSTE: Um, you were involved in the — the — the review of Mr. Adelson's iCloud information, correct?

92 58:49

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I did the — I did, um, the processing of it and created the report for it, yes, sir.

93 58:55

MR. DECOSTE: In your review, and in your prior testimony, with respect to that iCloud data, did you come across a phone number 954-581-1747?

94 59:08

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir, I believe I did.

95 59:10

MR. DECOSTE: And that was in Charlie Adelson's iCloud data?

96 59:13

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, I believe so.

97 59:14

MR. DECOSTE: Was it saved under the name "eco-friendly shop"?

98 59:17

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

99 59:18

MR. DECOSTE: Did you happen to find that same phone number in the download of Sigfredo Garcia's phone?

100 59:23

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Yes, sir.

101 59:24

MR. DECOSTE: And what was it saved under?

102 59:32

MR. DECOSTE: Please.

103 59:32

MICHAEL DILLMORE: 954-581-1747. Sully Mech, I believe.

104 1:00:06

MR. DECOSTE: Do you know who Sully Mech or eco-friendly shop is?

105 1:00:10

MICHAEL DILLMORE: No sir, I do not.

106 1:00:11

MR. DECOSTE: Do you know if any investigation was done into that phone number, the 954-581-1747 number?

107 1:00:19

MICHAEL DILLMORE: I don't know.

108 1:00:19

MR. DECOSTE: One brief moment. Nothing further.

109 1:00:19

JUDGE WHEELER: Cross-examination.

110 1:00:32

MS. DUGAN: No, sir.

111 1:00:36

MR. DECOSTE: Okay. Can we release the witness?

112 1:00:37

JUDGE WHEELER: Yes, please.

113 1:00:38

MICHAEL DILLMORE: Thank you, sir.

114 1:00:39

JUDGE WHEELER: Thank you. Have a good day.

115 1:00:40