Wendi Adelson — Cross/Redirect
643 linesMR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall that your parents and Charlie were quite excited to come watch you in Tallahassee at this event in August?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall your brother saying he couldn't wait to book a ticket, that it was fucking awesome?
WENDI ADELSON: Yeah, he was very excited.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall discussing with Professor Markel who would have custody of the boys during various trips in August and September of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall having those discussions in July of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: That would make sense, yeah.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do — you recall scheduling a whole host of meetings after July 18, 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Let me be more precise. Before July 18, 2014, do you recall scheduling a bunch of meetings that were to occur after July 18, 2014 in Tallahassee?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall making plans with a friend moving to Tallahassee for July 25th, 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't.
MR. RASHBAUM: Let me see if I can refresh your memory.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you know an individual named Tahira Lee?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I approach, Your Honor, with defense exhibit 15?
MR. RASHBAUM: I would direct you to the email on June 17, 2014, which I think is the fourth email on the first page, and see if that refreshes your memory, but feel free to look at the whole document.
WENDI ADELSON: I see it, but you were asking if they were moving to Tallahassee on the 25th, or if I know?
MR. RASHBAUM: Okay, sorry, I'll repeat the question. Okay, do you recall making plans with her where you said you would make plans with her after August 25th, 2014, because your family was coming to town?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes, and —
MR. RASHBAUM: — that happened, that correspondence was in late June of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do — you — do you recall in June — you can put that aside now — do you recall in June of 2014, late June of 2014, expressing interest in joining the board of a Tallahassee-based child advocacy nonprofit called American Children's Campaign?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: That was in Tallahassee, right?
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall scheduling a meeting for July 23, 2014, with a professor, Van Dern, with the FSU College of Medicine?
WENDI ADELSON: So I don't, but I ran a medical-legal partnership, so I would have been setting up meetings with the medical school, with the law school, with the social work school, so that would have been normal, but I — I don't remember it specifically.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I approach, Your Honor?
MR. RASHBAUM: Does this refresh your recollection that you were scheduling a meeting with Professor Van Duren for July 23rd of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall schedule — you can put that aside. Okay.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do — do you recall scheduling a meeting with your divorce lawyer to meet any time of the week of July 21, 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Again, I don't remember specifically, but it sounds like it would have made sense for the time.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you know an individual named Cindy Jean?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you remember emailing her and asking her if the kids were available to go swimming at the pool on July 19th to 20th?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't remember, but it sounds like something I would have asked.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I approach, Your Honor, with defense exhibit 20 for identification purposes only?
MR. RASHBAUM: Does — this refresh your memory about trying to set up that play date for July 20th or July 19th with Miss Jean?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You can put that aside. Do — you recall that your mom planned to visit Tallahassee in November of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't remember that.
MR. RASHBAUM: I'm — showing — may I approach, Your Honor, with defense exhibit 21 for identification purposes only?
JUDGE EVERETT: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Does — this refresh your memory that your parents planned on being in Tallahassee on November 17th? Is that a fresh memory? Do — you — recall asking your parents to come to Tallahassee on August 1, 2014, for a birthday party with Ben — for Ben?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't remember doing that, but that sounds — it's close in time to his — his birthday.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I approach, Your Honor, with Defense Exhibit 22.
MR. RASHBAUM: Does this refresh your recollection that you were going to have a birthday party for Ben in Tallahassee in early August of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: You can put that aside.
MR. RASHBAUM: And that your parents were going to come up for that?
WENDI ADELSON: I am.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall making flight reservations to travel to Newark and then back to Tallahassee? So you're going to leave from Tallahassee, go to Newark, come back to Tallahassee for a wedding in October 2014.
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you made those reservations in July of 2014.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall that?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't recall when I made the reservation, but I remember the wedding.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I approach, Your Honor, with Defense Exhibit 23.
MR. RASHBAUM: Does this refresh your recollection that the reservation was made sometime around July 14, 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: That you were booking tickets for a wedding in New Jersey on October 24, 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And the cost of those tickets were over $400, right?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: Put that aside. Those tickets weren't to go back to Miami, were they?
WENDI ADELSON: No, it was Tallahassee to Newark, Newark to Tallahassee.
MR. RASHBAUM: Why did you — why did you make those tickets to go back to Tallahassee?
WENDI ADELSON: That is where I lived.
MR. RASHBAUM: We're gonna move on to another subject.
MR. RASHBAUM: Miss Cappleman talked a little bit yesterday about the litigation that occurred after the relocation litigation with Professor Markel. You recall that?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: And there were these pieces of litigation back and forth about money and about filing false affidavits. You remember those?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: It was what was called the motion against your mom that Professor Markel filed. You recall that, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: With regards to the motion that Professor Markel filed claiming that you and your attorney filed a false affidavit, did you get the sense that you were gonna prevail on that litigation?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Was the judge getting frustrated with Professor Markel on that litigation?
WENDI ADELSON: Very.
MR. RASHBAUM: Did the judge admonish Professor Markel regarding that litigation?
WENDI ADELSON: The judge said he needed to stop.
MR. RASHBAUM: Were you concerned about getting disbarred?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MR. RASHBAUM: I want to talk a little bit about Jeff Lacasse.
MR. RASHBAUM: You first met Mr. Lacasse in the fall of 2013?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: It was casual at first?
WENDI ADELSON: It was.
MR. RASHBAUM: You were dating other people as well?
WENDI ADELSON: I was.
MR. RASHBAUM: It got more serious around March of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: He was, fair to say, he was in love with you?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't really remember. I don't think I could say, but it was more serious.
MR. RASHBAUM: Okay. You weren't so sure about him, is that fair to say?
WENDI ADELSON: I think my feelings developed over time.
MR. RASHBAUM: And then they undeveloped?
WENDI ADELSON: And then they undeveloped.
MR. RASHBAUM: You were very different people from very different backgrounds, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yeah.
MR. RASHBAUM: He didn't spend much time with your parents, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I think maybe he met them once.
MR. RASHBAUM: He wanted to meet them more than once, right? He didn't like that he didn't get to see them more times.
WENDI ADELSON: I think he wanted to be more integrated into my life.
MR. RASHBAUM: Jeff Lacasse met Charlie Adelson one time in March of 2014, right?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: He accompanied you on a trip with law students, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I used to run an alternative spring break, and he came with me.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you decided to come down to South Florida for a day or two, right?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you had dinner at a place called Yardbird, right?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: Are you aware that that happened on March 11, 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: No, I don't remember the date, just that it was during the spring break.
MR. RASHBAUM: Fair enough.
MR. RASHBAUM: You remember sitting outside on the patio?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: And it was you and Mr. Lacasse and Charlie and a woman named Katherine Magbanua. Do you recall that?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: Who was Charlie's girlfriend at the time?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Are you aware that Sigfredo Garcia was watching you at that dinner?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MR. RASHBAUM: Are you aware that he was contemplating running your brother over with his car at that dinner?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MR. RASHBAUM: After dinner, you and Jeff Lacasse stayed at Charlie's house, right?
WENDI ADELSON: We did.
MR. RASHBAUM: Ms. Magbanua wasn't there, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't remember her being there.
MR. RASHBAUM: It was just the three of you?
WENDI ADELSON: I think so.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you left the next morning?
WENDI ADELSON: We did.
MR. RASHBAUM: Now you and Mr. Lacasse started having issues around May of 2014, is that fair to say?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds about right.
MR. RASHBAUM: You started to become nervous around him?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't really remember if I was nervous around him, but I started thinking it wasn't the right relationship.
MR. RASHBAUM: He started accusing you of being unfaithful, right?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: He accused you of having an affair with someone that you had previously dated?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
OFF RECORD: Excuse me.
MR. RASHBAUM: You told him that you didn't. You denied it.
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: And he didn't believe you?
WENDI ADELSON: He did not.
MR. RASHBAUM: And before, this individual that you used to date, you had coffee with at a place called All Saints in Tallahassee, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I did.
MR. RASHBAUM: And Mr. Lacasse saw you having coffee with this individual, right?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: And that caused a confrontation, is that fair to say?
WENDI ADELSON: He flew into a rage.
MR. RASHBAUM: Subsequently, he went through your phone and planner, right?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: This is around May, June of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds right.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you and Mr. Lacasse went to Gainesville for a weekend for his work at some point around this time frame?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And that Saturday night, June 28th, he basically exploded at you?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: He yelled at you for hours?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: He accused you of having affairs with multiple people?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: You were very upset, to say the least.
WENDI ADELSON: I was devastated, yeah.
MR. RASHBAUM: Now, you were scheduled to leave for South Florida — I believe it was on June 30th or June 29th — to celebrate your dad's 70th birthday, right?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds right.
MR. RASHBAUM: And Mr. Lacasse wasn't invited?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MR. RASHBAUM: You went down to South Florida on June 30th, and you and the boys stayed with your parents, right?
WENDI ADELSON: We did.
MR. RASHBAUM: You had the boys with you the whole time?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Dan Markel didn't have the boys at that point in time. The boys were with you?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And Charlie knew that, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes, he was with us.
MR. RASHBAUM: Your mom planned a big party for the birthday?
WENDI ADELSON: She did.
MR. RASHBAUM: I think when Ms. Cappleman asked you if the birthday fell on a Saturday, you weren't sure.
WENDI ADELSON: I remembered it being on his actual birthday, which I thought was a Saturday, but I don't remember the calendar from 2014.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I approach, Your Honor, with Defendant's Exhibit 25?
MR. RASHBAUM: Ms. Adelson, does this refresh your recollection that July 5, 2014, was on a Saturday?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And that the party was at 7:30 p.m. or thereabouts?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Now, when you got back to Tallahassee, you saw Mr. Lacasse on July 13th?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds right.
MR. RASHBAUM: And when you saw him, it was not a good meeting, is that fair to say?
WENDI ADELSON: It's uncomfortable, yeah.
MR. RASHBAUM: You saw him the next day at a yoga studio?
WENDI ADELSON: I went to yoga and he wanted to come, and it was awkward.
MR. RASHBAUM: It was, and kind of tense?
WENDI ADELSON: It was.
MR. RASHBAUM: And he asked to see you again later that week?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you didn't want to?
WENDI ADELSON: I did not.
MR. RASHBAUM: And when you got home that night, you sent him an email asking him not to contact you for at least seven days, that you wanted to think things over. Is that fair to say?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You never saw him again, right?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MR. RASHBAUM: Are you now aware that there was a first attempt on your ex-husband's life on June 4th and June 5th of 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: When you lived with Professor Markel on Trescott, was your address publicly listed?
WENDI ADELSON: I believe so.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I have one moment, Your Honor?
MR. RASHBAUM: I have a schedule for the Markel children.
JUDGE EVERETT: Very well.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you need a copy, Your Honor?
JUDGE EVERETT: I have it right here.
JUDGE EVERETT: I'm just bringing up instruction 2.3.
JUDGE EVERETT: Members of the jury, when the parties agree that certain facts are true, that is called a stipulation of fact. You must accept stipulated facts as having been proven. However, the significance of these facts, as with all facts, is for you to decide. In this case, the stipulated facts that you must accept as true are: the Markel children were enrolled at Creative Preschool located in Tallahassee. During the week of July 14th, 2014, their drop-off/pick-up schedule was as follows.
JUDGE EVERETT: Monday, July 14, 2014, dropped off at 8:55 a.m. by Dan Markel, picked up at 5 p.m. by Dan Markel. Tuesday, July 15, 2014, dropped off at 8:25 a.m. by Dan Markel, picked up at 4:50 p.m. by Dan Markel. Wednesday, July 16, 2014, dropped off at 9 a.m. by Dan Markel, picked up at 4:30 p.m. by Wendi Adelson. Thursday, July 17, 2014, dropped off at 8:30 a.m. by Wendi Adelson, picked up at 4:45 p.m. by Dan Markel.
JUDGE EVERETT: Friday, July 18, 2014, dropped off at 8:50 a.m. by Dan Markel.
MR. RASHBAUM: Thank you, Your Honor.
MR. RASHBAUM: So I want to first focus your attention on the July 17, 2014 schedule.
MR. RASHBAUM: On July 17, 2014, as Your Honor just recited, do you recall dropping the kids off at school at 8:30 in the morning?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And Professor Markel picked them up at 4:45 p.m. on that day, thereabouts.
WENDI ADELSON: Which I just heard, but I wouldn't have known what time.
MR. RASHBAUM: You didn't pick them up that day?
WENDI ADELSON: No, it wasn't my day.
MR. RASHBAUM: So it would be impossible — the person would be wrong if they said that they saw you and the kids by Professor Markel's house in the afternoon or morning of July 17, 2014, correct?
WENDI ADELSON: It would be some other woman and some other kids.
MR. RASHBAUM: You spoke to your mom probably close to daily, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yeah, during this time period.
MR. RASHBAUM: She would know when you had the kids and didn't have the kids, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Probably.
MR. RASHBAUM: I want to go back to something briefly that we talked about yesterday before we stopped.
MR. RASHBAUM: You knew that Professor Markel posted his travel plans on Facebook and on his PrawfsBlawg, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: He would talk about places and conferences that he was speaking at, right?
WENDI ADELSON: He would.
MR. RASHBAUM: Are you aware that on the weekend of the 20th, he was supposed to speak at a conference in New Jersey and he posted it on PrawfsBlawg as well as on Facebook?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Let's talk a little bit about Best Buy.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I approach, Your Honor?
JUDGE EVERETT: You may.
MR. RASHBAUM: I'm showing you what's marked for identification purposes only as Defense Exhibits 29 and 30.
MR. RASHBAUM: Looking at Defense Exhibit 29, does that refresh your recollection that the warranty was under your father's name for that TV?
WENDI ADELSON: Mm-hmm.
MR. RASHBAUM: That warranty with the Geek Squad?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes. Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Now, looking at — before you look at Exhibit 20 — do you recall that your mother scheduled the appointment for the TV to be fixed with this Geek Squad?
WENDI ADELSON: I remember that I scheduled it, but it looks like she scheduled it and gave me the number to call in case I needed to reschedule it.
MR. RASHBAUM: And in fact, she emailed you on July 11th and told you if you can't keep the appointment on the 18th, call this number to reschedule it, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You — can put that aside. I — want to talk a little bit more about July 18th. Um, do you recall leaving your house that day on Aqua Ridge Way around 12:30 in the afternoon?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you were going to meet a friend for lunch at a place called Mosaic?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: But you had to pick up a bottle of — I don't know if it's bourbon or whiskey, I don't even know if they're the same thing — but Bulleit whiskey.
WENDI ADELSON: It was, um, bourbon.
MR. RASHBAUM: Okay.
WENDI ADELSON: Um, it was for your friend's — uh, wedding shower that night. They were having a stock-the-bar party, so they asked for specific kinds of alcohol to stock the bar.
MR. RASHBAUM: And, um, I'm — showing you what's marked as Defense Exhibit 32. Is this the invitation that you received?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: That's it, Judge.
MR. RASHBAUM: I would move Defense Exhibit 32 into evidence at this point in time.
JUDGE EVERETT: Any objection?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Hearsay, Your Honor.
JUDGE EVERETT: Any exception?
MR. RASHBAUM: State of mind.
JUDGE EVERETT: The objection is sustained.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do— Do you recall on the right-hand, left-hand corner of the invitation it says "help the bride and groom stock the bar for their wedding and bring a bottle of Bulleit bourbon"?
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall that?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You can put that aside.
MR. RASHBAUM: You decided to go to ABC Liquors on Bedden Road to look for the bourbon, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I did.
MR. RASHBAUM: You're not a big drinker, is that fair to say?
WENDI ADELSON: That is fair to say.
MR. RASHBAUM: You went to that — that store — because you were familiar with it?
WENDI ADELSON: I'd seen it close to my house, so.
MR. RASHBAUM: Close to your old house?
WENDI ADELSON: Close to my old house.
MR. RASHBAUM: There could have been liquor stores that were closer to your current house?
WENDI ADELSON: Sure.
MR. RASHBAUM: Now, when you drove to ABC Liquor, you tried to go through Trescott.
MR. RASHBAUM: Is that fair to say?
WENDI ADELSON: It was blocked.
MR. RASHBAUM: There are other ways to go to ABC Liquor, right? You could have gone down other roads.
WENDI ADELSON: I don't have the best sense of direction, so when I find a route, I just kind of keep using that route. I don't look for something else.
MR. RASHBAUM: You got to Mosaic at around 1 p.m.?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds right.
MR. RASHBAUM: And your lunch was interrupted by Investigator Isom, who told you that something had happened?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: You went with him voluntarily?
WENDI ADELSON: I did.
MR. RASHBAUM: To speak with him?
MR. RASHBAUM: You let police search your car?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You were interviewed with the investigator from approximately 2:45 p.m. until 7:50 p.m.?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: He told you that your ex-husband had been shot and was unlikely to survive, right?
MR. RASHBAUM: You were in shock.
MR. RASHBAUM: You were pretty open with police, telling them a lot of things, right?
WENDI ADELSON: They kept telling me they needed my help, and so I kept trying to help.
MR. RASHBAUM: Now, you remember on direct Miss Cappleman asked you about this interview?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And she asked you about all the people you mentioned during the interview, including Charlie?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you said, "I was just reeling off names," right? In fact, isn't the first person in the interview that you mentioned — yourself?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You said that you would understand if you were viewed as the prime suspect, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Right. Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Before you mentioned anyone else, you mentioned yourself.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You told them about the motion to relocate.
WENDI ADELSON: I did.
MR. RASHBAUM: You told them about the fight you had with Professor Markel that very morning about some swimming for the boys.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You were spitting out a lot of ideas.
WENDI ADELSON: I was.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you agreed to let the police search your phone.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You agreed to let the police search your car.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: That's where they found that picture that I wasn't able to admit of the invitation of the Bulleit Bourbon, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yeah.
MR. RASHBAUM: You agreed to be fingerprinted.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You agreed to be checked for gunshot residue.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You gave them your computer to be searched.
WENDI ADELSON: I did.
MR. RASHBAUM: Towards the end of your interview, you asked the police officer if you could call your parents, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I did.
MR. RASHBAUM: And the police allowed you to do that.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you called your mother's cell phone sometime around 7:04 p.m.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You spoke to your mom. I don't know if you remember, but you remember your dad being in the shower because they were going out to dinner.
WENDI ADELSON: I don't remember.
MR. RASHBAUM: Your mom didn't answer, actually, the first call, and you called back a couple minutes later and she answered. Do you recall that?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't.
MR. RASHBAUM: And when you called your mom, she was surprised?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you asked her to call Charlie and tell him what happened, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You didn't speak with Charlie that day, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't think so.
MR. RASHBAUM: On July 19th, the next day, you spoke to Charlie at 10:50 in the morning.
MR. RASHBAUM: You won't know the exact time, but do you recall speaking with him in the morning?
WENDI ADELSON: I honestly don't.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do you recall letting him know that Professor Markel had passed away in the early morning?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't remember the conversation.
MR. RASHBAUM: When your parents came directly to Tallahassee, correct?
WENDI ADELSON: They did.
MR. RASHBAUM: They stopped in Orlando and they got there on the morning of the 19th, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And when they got there, they were scared and frantic, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Your dad didn't sleep. He couldn't get police protection, so he planted his chair in the front of your window to make sure that no one was going to come to your house and shoot it up, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Correct.
MR. RASHBAUM: Now, you all attended a memorial service on the 20th, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you arranged for the Markels to see the boys after the memorial service, right?
WENDI ADELSON: They all came over my house.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you left Tallahassee, correct?
WENDI ADELSON: Not on the 20th. On the 21st. Yes. Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And when you left Tallahassee on the 21st, did you bring all your belongings?
WENDI ADELSON: I brought some swimsuits for the boys and some pajamas, and I thought we'd be back in a day or two.
MR. RASHBAUM: And when you left, you were not yourself.
WENDI ADELSON: I was a mess.
MR. RASHBAUM: You got to South Florida, and you realized that you could not take care of the boys alone at this point in time.
WENDI ADELSON: I was — I hadn't slept in days, and I was terrified to —
MR. RASHBAUM: Get a little more specific. You wouldn't leave the house?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you would hardly eat?
WENDI ADELSON: I wasn't eating, no.
MR. RASHBAUM: Ultimately, you decided not to come back to Tallahassee.
WENDI ADELSON: I mean, I made that decision much later, but —
MR. RASHBAUM: And you had a friend who you grew up with, I think a last name Keener, go back and get more stuff at your house, right?
WENDI ADELSON: He did.
MR. RASHBAUM: We have one more moment here.
MR. RASHBAUM: It's — been said in this courtroom that you have tried to erase Professor Markel's memory from your boys' lives.
MR. RASHBAUM: Is that true?
WENDI ADELSON: It's not true.
MR. RASHBAUM: For the first two years after the murder, did you limit Professor Markel's family from seeing the boys?
WENDI ADELSON: Absolutely not.
MR. RASHBAUM: In fact, they had complete access to the boys, right?
WENDI ADELSON: One hundred percent. They —
MR. RASHBAUM: — made dinners with the boys?
WENDI ADELSON: I cooked dinner for them, yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: Every time they visited, there were sleepovers and playdates?
WENDI ADELSON: That's right.
MR. RASHBAUM: There was no animosity at all, right? And — then in October of 2016, things changed, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: A letter was released where there was a suggestion that Professor Markel's mom was talking to the state about arranging custody for the boys in case you got arrested.
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And you saw that as a betrayal?
WENDI ADELSON: Well, the custody was foster care, so yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: You saw that as her thinking that you killed her son?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MR. RASHBAUM: And as a result of that, rightly or wrongly, you decided to limit their access?
WENDI ADELSON: I was afraid they were going to put my children in foster care.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do your children know anything about their father?
WENDI ADELSON: They know a lot about their dad.
MR. RASHBAUM: Do they have a picture of him in their bedroom?
WENDI ADELSON: Each boy has a picture of them and their dad over their bed that we say good morning to and good night to every day.
MR. RASHBAUM: Did you benefit from Professor Markel's death?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MR. RASHBAUM: Well, you got to live in South Florida.
WENDI ADELSON: It's not a benefit.
MR. RASHBAUM: How are your boys doing?
WENDI ADELSON: They're doing very well, thank you.
MR. RASHBAUM: How have your job prospects been since this case hit the news?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Objection, relevance.
JUDGE EVERETT: Sustained.
MR. RASHBAUM: How are you doing?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Objection, relevance.
JUDGE EVERETT: Sustained.
MR. RASHBAUM: Has this affected your life negatively or positively?
WENDI ADELSON: Negatively.
MR. RASHBAUM: Does Charlie love his nephews?
WENDI ADELSON: Very much.
MR. RASHBAUM: May I have one moment, Your Honor?
MR. RASHBAUM: Thank you Ms. Adelson, I have no further questions.
JUDGE EVERETT: Redirect examination.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: The long list of plans that you went over with Mr. Rashbaum that you were going to have in Tallahassee post-murder date — None of those plans happened, right?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Because you moved to South Florida, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Because I felt unsafe to stay here. Yes.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Did you feel safe in South Florida?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Did you buy a house in Tallahassee after the murder?
WENDI ADELSON: No, I did not.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Did you rent a house in Tallahassee after the murder?
WENDI ADELSON: No, I didn't live in Tallahassee after the murder.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Did the boys go to school that fall here in Tallahassee?
WENDI ADELSON: No, all our plans were broken.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: What was the purpose of those questions? Of course you didn't — you moved to South Florida, you didn't have plans in Tallahassee that got executed. Why were you asked about all those things?
WENDI ADELSON: I, I don't know why I was asked questions by the defense counsel.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: The book event that you were asked about — did that event happen?
WENDI ADELSON: I didn't speak at the event, but the event still happened.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Have you had several events related to that book that have happened?
WENDI ADELSON: I have.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And what events were those? Do you mean just in Tallahassee, or do you mean in other places?
WENDI ADELSON: Everywhere. I've spoken at various schools about human trafficking and about my book. I think there was one event that still happened in Tallahassee about a year later.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And was — is that the only book you've written, or have you written more than one book?
WENDI ADELSON: I've only written one book.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: What was the book about?
WENDI ADELSON: The book was about human trafficking and about the vulnerabilities that lead to trafficking, the problems when it occurs, and basically how to recover from it after.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Where was the book set?
WENDI ADELSON: It was set in a fictional town.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: What was the name of the fictional town?
WENDI ADELSON: Hiawassee Springs.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: So Hiawassee.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Is it located in the panhandle of Florida?
WENDI ADELSON: No, I used to see the name when I was driving from Tallahassee to Orlando, so it's somewhere in between.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Was the place modeled after Tallahassee?
WENDI ADELSON: It was definitely somewhere in Florida, but not supposed to be about Tallahassee, no.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Who was the central character in that book?
WENDI ADELSON: So there's three central characters. One was one of my clients, kind of a composite character from Eastern Europe. One was kind of a composite character of many clients I represented from Latin America. And one was a public interest lawyer.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And was the public interest lawyer Lily?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And is that the character that was sort of based after yourself?
WENDI ADELSON: No, really more based after a friend of mine.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And was Hiawassee, Florida, quote, "just a small stop on the way back to what we had previously known as civilization"?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Is that a quote from your book?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds like a quote from my book, yeah.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And who's the husband of Lily, the public interest lawyer?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: You want his name in the book?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes. I think it was Josh Stone.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: All right, and what was Josh's employment?
WENDI ADELSON: Josh was an English professor.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: I'm sorry, what was your answer?
WENDI ADELSON: Josh was an English professor.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: A professor. Where did he teach?
WENDI ADELSON: It's been a while. I wrote the book over 10 years ago. I don't remember what I named the university in the story.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: North Florida State University?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds right.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: NFSU?
WENDI ADELSON: NFSU sounds right, yeah.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: All right, and in the book, does Lily lament, quote, "we move to this godforsaken place for Josh's career"?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes, that sounds like the line Lily would say.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: When you looked at page 187 of the divorce document on cross — and I'll hand that back to you — do you see the quote that you read previously from that page?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't. It
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Had to do with — let's see if I can find it — that you were very unhappy in the marriage. I think it's the third paragraph there.
WENDI ADELSON: I see that line.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. "The wife has been very unhappy in the marriage and files her petition for dissolution of marriage in August 2012. The husband continues to characterize this as abandonment." And then it goes on to say that he had been disparaging you to some of the folks at the law school. Do you remember reading that?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Was that intended to be the place in this binder where you allege emotional abuse by your husband?
WENDI ADELSON: I mean, I think it's emotionally abusive to suggest somebody has mental health issues.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. Okay. What is the profs blog? You were asked about that on cross.
WENDI ADELSON: Yeah, it was a blog that Danny started with some of his colleagues to kind of promote community in the law professor world.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And who reads the profs blog?
WENDI ADELSON: Probably other law professors and people interested in becoming law professors.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Who is on the crim prof listserv?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Were you on the listserv for that profs blog?
WENDI ADELSON: I may have been on the listserv at some point.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Do you remember seeing the post that you were shown on cross?
WENDI ADELSON: I do.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And the post says something about, "Danny and I are planning to attend a conference that will begin Sunday, July 20th." Is there any other information on what you were shown about Dan's travel plans post-murder other than that?
WENDI ADELSON: I'm sorry, can you please repeat the question?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: The post says, "Danny and I" — I guess it's another professor writing this thing — "Danny and I are planning to attend a conference that will be in — Sunday, July 20th." Is that the type of information that he would typically have on something like the profs blog or Facebook?
WENDI ADELSON: That sounds right.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. But as far as the date he's leaving, the flight he's on, that kind of stuff — would that typically be on the profs blog?
WENDI ADELSON: He wouldn't put what flight number he was on, but he would almost always communicate when he was going on a trip.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. So going to a conference that starts July 20th might be an example. Flying to New York tomorrow would be an example, but not a flight number. But he didn't put "flying to New York tomorrow" on this occasion?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: You were referenced several times — not on direct examination by the state, but by your brother's attorney on cross — as a co-conspirator. Are you charged in this case?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: This isn't your trial, is it?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Is your brother charged with conspiring with you to do a murder?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Is he charged with conspiring with you to plan a murder?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Is he charged with soliciting you to do a murder?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Who is he charged with doing those things with?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't think anyone.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Have you had an opportunity to review his indictment in this case?
WENDI ADELSON: I have not.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Who is your brother alleged to have done these crimes with?
WENDI ADELSON: Katherine D.
WENDI ADELSON: Magbanua.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Were you on the wire in this case, Ms. Adelson?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: So when the bump happened — are you familiar with the event I'm referencing as the bump?
WENDI ADELSON: I am now.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: When law enforcement approached your mother on the street and handed her a piece of paper —
WENDI ADELSON: Yes.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. And when that occurred, who did your mother call?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Not you, right?
WENDI ADELSON: Not me.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. And once your brother found out about the bump, did he call you about it?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Who did he call?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Well, you listened to the calls to authenticate the voices, didn't you?
WENDI ADELSON: Just — just to hear the voices, not to hear the content of the calls.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. And the voices were your brother's voice, right?
WENDI ADELSON: But I — I listened to the calls just to hear who was on them, so I don't know what content they're referencing.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: I heard your answer. My question to you now is: your brother's voice was on the calls.
WENDI ADELSON: He was on some of the calls I listened to.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Your mother's voice was on the calls.
WENDI ADELSON: She was on some of the calls I listened to.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Did — you have any secret meetings with your brother post-bump that happened in South Florida?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: You were asked about Jeffrey Lacasse and the way that your relationship ended.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: What is OkCupid?
WENDI ADELSON: OkCupid is a dating website.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Were you on that dating website?
WENDI ADELSON: I was.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Were you on that dating website at the time that you were dating Mr. Lacasse?
WENDI ADELSON: No, I wasn't.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And were you speaking — so I guess if you weren't on it, you weren't speaking to multiple men from the website during the time you were dating Mr. Lacasse. I'll remind you that you provided your phone in this case, and it was — downloaded.
MR. RASHBAUM: Objection.
MR. RASHBAUM: Argument.
JUDGE EVERETT: Approach.
JUDGE EVERETT: The argument that is denied as to improper impeachment is sustained. The jury is to disregard the last comment from the prosecutor.
JUDGE EVERETT: Go ahead.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Didn't you just say that you weren't on OkCupid at the time that you were dating Jeffrey Lacasse?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know when — we say I officially stopped dating Jeff Lacasse, but there's a chance that — I mean, I don't remember in 2014 whether I had gotten the app and started talking to people before we officially broke up.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay, so my point is, there's a chance that he was right. You were — being unfaithful, or at least talking to other people. He had a reason to be jealous.
WENDI ADELSON: I think he had some serious jealousy issues that may or may not have been founded.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Yeah. I think we got from your testimony that you believe he had serious jealousy issues. My question to you is: did he have a reason to be?
WENDI ADELSON: No.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: So he was wrong?
WENDI ADELSON: He was wrong in June when he accused me of being with multiple people that I wasn't with. Yes.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Okay. What was wrong with Dan's mother trying to make arrangements for the kids in the event of your arrest?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Wasn't that a kind thing to do?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't think it's kind to put my children in foster care.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Wasn't the foster care intended only to cover the time frame that it would take for her to get on a plane and get here?
WENDI ADELSON: She never said that.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: You thought she was just going to leave them in foster care?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know what to think. They have a mother. They don't need to be in foster care.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: But they wouldn't have a mother in the event of your arrest, Ms. Adelson. Wasn't that the intention of the email?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know what the intent of the email was. I was not going to be arrested for a crime I didn't commit.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: She didn't know that, though, did she?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know what she knows or doesn't know. I can't speak to that.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Do Dan's parents know whether you committed this crime or not?
WENDI ADELSON: I don't know how to answer that question. How would they?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Particularly back at the time that she sent that email — it was fresh at that time, right?
WENDI ADELSON: I'm sorry, what was fresh?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: All the events that were occurring — the arrests.
WENDI ADELSON: That was two years after Danny's murder. I don't know what she knew or didn't know. I know that my children don't belong in foster care.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Was it a specific foster care that she was requesting be called in the event that the children had no place to go and were going to be going into the custody of the state?
WENDI ADELSON: She did suggest a specific foster care agency — a Jewish-run foster care agency.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: A Jewish foster care. How many times have the kids visited Dan's parents since this murder?
WENDI ADELSON: Many. It would be hard to count. Countless times. Countless times.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: How many times have they seen him in the last year?
WENDI ADELSON: We had a visit with Danny's dad and the boys' cousin this summer. We've had a lot of Skype visits. They do live in Canada, so it makes it a little bit harder to have in-person visitation, but every time they've asked for it, we've arranged it.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Every time they've asked for a visit, you've arranged it?
WENDI ADELSON: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: How many times have they seen him in the last five years?
WENDI ADELSON: Again, countless — as in the last five years that overlaps with the time when they tried to put them in foster care. So since we've established — since we've reestablished relations — we've seen them about twice a year whenever they come down to Florida.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: So in the last five years, they've seen them how many times — two or three times a year?
WENDI ADELSON: About that.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Has this been a major issue between you and Dan Markel's parents — this issue of them having access to the kids?
WENDI ADELSON: The issue of them trying to put them in foster care is a major issue.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: No, ma'am, that's not my question. I'm sorry.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Hasn't the issue of them trying to get access to your kids been a major issue, at least for them?
WENDI ADELSON: Since they tried to put the children in foster care, yes. Before that, it was not a problem.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Are you familiar with their work across the street at the legislature trying to get bills passed to give grandparents rights to see kids?
WENDI ADELSON: I'm familiar with their grandparents' legislation, but it's actually unconstitutional.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Are you mad — are you — are you angry that according to your brother's theory, he and your mom have known who killed your children's father since 2014 and you weren't told who it was?
WENDI ADELSON: I'm angry that somebody killed my children's father.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: So you're not mad about that, that they knew this whole time?
WENDI ADELSON: That's what they're saying? I'm sorry, can you repeat?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: That's the theory of the defense in this case — that he's known the whole time, your brother's known what happened to Dan. Does that make you angry?
WENDI ADELSON: I'm angry about so many things, it's hard to —
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Is that one of them? Separate them.
WENDI ADELSON: We'll try. I'm confused. It's hard to process.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And apparently, according to his lawyer, these killers had threatened to kill your brother's family members as well.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Did you hear that?
WENDI ADELSON: I did hear that.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And that would be you, right?
WENDI ADELSON: It would.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Were you told that the specific threat had been made by the same people that had killed your ex-husband — to kill your brother's family members?
WENDI ADELSON: I was not told.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Would that have been information you would have liked to know back in 2014?
WENDI ADELSON: 2014? Yes.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Would you have made the same decision to move down to South Florida, closer to the killers?
WENDI ADELSON: No, I would not.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: And even after the killers were arrested in 2016, you weren't told that that's what was going on the whole time?
WENDI ADELSON: I found out yesterday.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: No further questions.
JUDGE EVERETT: The — jury is being instructed to disregard the comment of the witness as to the constitutionality of any portion of the Florida statutes. You may step down.
JUDGE EVERETT: Will — Miss Adelson be recalled at any point? Look — Look — looking to both of you: will she be subject to recall at any point?
MS. CAPPLEMAN: That's possible, Judge. I ask that she remain under the rule but she's free to go about her business.
JUDGE EVERETT: Have a good day, ma'am.
JUDGE EVERETT: Please call your next witness.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: May I have a moment?
JUDGE EVERETT: Go ahead.
JUDGE EVERETT: We'll take a 10-minute recess until 10:15.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: Judge, are we still on the record?
JUDGE EVERETT: If there's something that you need to address, go ahead, yes.
MS. CAPPLEMAN: But before — not the next witness, I believe, but the next two witnesses — we're just going to need to go sidebar at your leisure to discuss a couple of issues. So just giving you a heads up.
JUDGE EVERETT: Let's go ahead and approach now while they're doing their break.
JUDGE EVERETT: Okay. Everyone can be seated.
JUDGE EVERETT: The jurors ready?
JUDGE EVERETT: Bring them in. Once potty is over.
JUDGE EVERETT: Everyone can be seated.